Posted by Professor Subzero on Dec 15, 2016 | 10 comments
Hey, did anybody notice some parallels to submarine movies this week?
I’ve been looking forward to this episode for a few weeks, ever since it was real-time reviewed on Ten Forward.
And it didn’t disappoint.
There’s no doubt this is a nod to submarine stories in general, and that’s fine in my book since The Wrath of Khan has a similar feel to it. At least here we have the idea of active scans rather than just blindly flying around a nebula. Well it’s another ninty years on from then I suppose, there’s bound to be advances!
Just a thought, but maybe the Borg could have tried that when the Enterprise-D was hiding in a nebula in the Best of Both Worlds?
Anyway, this is a well paced episode throughout as it never really feels like it stops even though there’s not a lot happening at times. From the moment the Jem’Hadar show up it’s tense, it’s frantic, and no one is entirely sure what’s happening. They sink into the planet for a while, they bounce back up and then get battered to the point the Bridge gets smashed.
Then there’s all the problems to solve. The active scans aside, we get makeshift heat seeking torpedoes, we get Bashir rescuing Dax by being a hero, we get Quark in his brave pants defusing a bomb, we get engineers coming up with solutions to one problem after another, it’s all great stuff.
And then you throw on another layer of character building. I agree with you that Worf being a poor man manager makes no sense. He’s been head of security since Tasha Yar was killed, he must have had to deal with this before. Is it the cross function issues that he’s struggling with? Previously he’d only have dealt with other security personnel, here he’s having to deal with engineers.
That still doesn’t make sense when he was struggling with the ensign on the weapons testing – he definitely did that on the Enterprise! No, this is probably the weakest part of the episode. I like it, but it makes no sense in the grander scheme.
There’s Kira confessing her religious feelings for Sisko on the bridge. I’m not so sure I agree that the story was boring, I certainly wanted to hear more about it and so did Sisko in the end! It was probably the least interesting interaction on the ship, but that’s more because the others were so good and this one was so one-sided for the most part. It still worked well though. Made me think I’d quite like to go to a Baseball game with Sisko myself!
Quark would need to make decent hot dogs though. And speaking of Quark, he and Alien Zephram Cochrane was great to watch Quark try to wriggle out of being caught red-handed cheating a customer, and he did so in such a way he probably profited from it in the long run. Good old Quark!
Then there was Dax and Bashir. Hero aspect aside, it was nice to get a bit of closure on their romantic relationship side. I’m glad PAJ is gone, but it was still nice to see exactly where they stood. Or in this case, cuddled up to keep warm. I’ll be honest, when I finally go that’s how I want to go – cuddled up to Jadzia Dax.
Finally, there were some great take away thoughts from this. For one, when all else fails why not try prayer? Kira’s right, if you have no other options then what harm will that do? I’m agnostic and even I agree with that! It’s worth a try.
And then there’s Quark’s suggestion of the bigger the risk the bigger the win. While I can agree that might be the case, in some other cases it might be the case that some things are just too important to be worth risking no matter what the win. It all depends on what your risk appetite is.
Yeah, I’ve just bored myself with that last statement, it sounds too much like work. Which I really should be getting back to doing…
Five out of five episode from me, no doubt about it. Loved it all, even the weakest parts. You can’t ask for any more than that!
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I’d love to go to a ball game with Sisko as well.
Kira would certainly get to see a side of Sisko she hasn’t seen before. Seeing someone immersed in their passion (and sharing in that passion) can go a long way in getting to know a person.
As for Worf, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought his “leadership/man management skills” seemed out of place.
Thanks again for the feedback Keiran.
There would probably be a difference between Sisko taking Kira to a ball game where he already knew the outcome, and one where he didn’t. We know he’s certainly done the latter with Kassidy because of her family out on Cestus III, but I wonder if it would have been a more historical game that he’d have taken Kira to see?
Certainly if I know how a game will pan out I’m a lot more relaxed than if I’m watching one live!
However if I know I’m watching a amazing/historical game, I am eagerly looking forward to the amazing plays/moments that I know are about to come – which will clearly show my passion/love for the game.
Too bad we didn’t have a Star Trek Character that loved hockey…LOL!
There’s an amazing process in nature that, with time, heat, and pressure, transforms limestone into marble and coal into diamonds. Apparently, you put Odo, Farmer Hoggitt, and Danny Trejo through the same process, you get a Karemma.
Like was said in the podcast, I too enjoyed that the “little people” got active play in the story, something missing in “Star Trek.” I suspect the only reason we didn’t see this came down to the real-life dynamics of securing actors, guild rules, etc. It’s too bad, because that would have given a better picture of what life is like on the station. Presumably, the Defiant would be staffed by an experienced ship crew, so it would make sense to have regular supporting cast, but unfortunately, we don’t.
Much was said about Worf’s treatment of the subordinates throughout the episode. Of course, Worf’s a Klingon, so he’s not quite a warm and fuzzy guy, but after being a senior officer on the Enterprise for years, you’d think he’d know have a better clue how to manage himself around others. But still, his commands weren’t completely unreasonable. There’s a good reason to have faster phasers and a familiar control panel. He’s off a little when he wants to had extra strain to the generators, so I’m surprised he wasn’t upset when he was told he’d only have one shot on his improvised phaser array.
I don’t know where this dash of Danny Trejo game in, but I dig it.
Look at the prominent nose, chinline, deep-set, menacing eyes, mustache, and long black hair pulled back into a ponytail. You’ll see Danny Trejo looking back at you.
Oh, and Cromwell’s numerous Mexican prison tattoos. Don’t know how that slipped my mind.
Dive dive dive!!! a great episode to begin a binge catch up of UP2 from the Trek-mas break.
Little to say that hasn’t been said, the only point I agree was with Blair on the reaction of Kira to Sisko’ coma.
For a battle hardened terrorist she seems to fall to pieces pretty quickly when her faith comes into the picture?
Perhaps this is a conscious effort to show that as comforting faith can be it ultimately holds people back from being useful in a crisis.
I really like Worf’ command style issues with the engineers, having worked with former diplomats (who you’d think were the definition of “people persons”) who’ve transferred to a new role heading a team with IT people and they fall apart. Worf was in charge of Security as you guys highlighted and Worf is a warrior – it’s far easier to relate to those with the same interests where your command style can be influenced within that context.
This episode thoroughly entertains, opens the universe up, gives us an alien race to open up the canon and the writing is strong to make it one of the best episodes in the series but as an episode to try and show the “best of Trek” it’s not earth shattering it wouldn’t be in my top ten to educate a non-fan in Star Trek which is my bench mark for a full score. 4 out of 5.
Just a tech note, but there was definitely technobabble going on to allow the torpedo to penetrate the hull. There was no debris on the floor, no shrapnel from the wall in Quark’s face, no bending of the wall, et cetera, and that little flimsy access panel surely didn’t smash through metal by itself. Whether due to shielding or a phaser-like cutting apparatus, it had help.
Also, let’s not forget that the Defiant hull was experiencing pressures of nine million grams per square centimeter. Tough little ship, indeed!
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